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mandrin gobies
Topic Started: Sep 12 2008, 07:58:03 PM (223 Views)
Post #1 Sep 12 2008, 07:58:03 PM	Shane
has anyone here tried breeding these bad boys, after reading the articles from wmas it doesnt seem that hard.	breeding stock Posts: 311 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: August 5, 2008
Post #2 Sep 13 2008, 06:57:23 AM	Suzy
I don't believe so, yet. Give us a while, though! I do think there many things we can do to keep them healthy, though. It is very possible to teach them to eat frozen food and very possible (and easy) to grow the live food they need, as a supplement. I have had a green spot for years, in a tank. I believe Amie has a dragonette? But, we still need to learn more to keep larger delicate fish, like Moorish Idols and the rare fish we see promoted on WMAS.	Seahorse Whisperer Posts: 3,047 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: June 28, 2008
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Post #3 Sep 13 2008, 06:56:36 PM	Shane
according to the article it sounds like you get a pair and watch them, if they are fat and healthy they will spair for you, through them in a bubbler and they will hatch feed them some bbs or small food and bang you just raised some, they dont seem to be as hard as clownfish.	breeding stock Posts: 311 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: August 5, 2008
Post #4 Sep 15 2008, 09:46:25 AM	Amie
I know of a few people in the area that have had pairs that have spawned, but they haven't tried to raise them. I'd love to get a mate for my dragonette, I just haven't taken the time to find one. If you are interested in reading the entire struggle of Witt raising the dragonettes, it's completely detailed here on the MOFIB Board. The hardest part, I think, about raising them is that their fry are almost microscopic. Here's a quick view of their size progression. It's in german, but the pictures are in English. ;) raising mandarins Here is another interesting thread, that I will probably post over on WMAS as well, about how to train mandarins to eat frozen. Lots of people on the MOFIB board have mandarins in their tanks.	stormy, stormy nights Posts: 2,362 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: June 29, 2008
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Post #5 Sep 15 2008, 10:03:32 AM	Shane
i looked for pairs for sale and found none i suppose the best bet would be to buy them seperate. not like i am going to try anything like that just yet. i wonder if we can train fish to eat frozen, could we train dwarfs to eat frozen as well, like say i hatch out a gazillion bbs and then freeze them into cubes like they do mysis and other various foods, could i get them converted over to frozen that way i only have to hatch out bbs once a month instead of everyday?	breeding stock Posts: 311 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: August 5, 2008
Post #6 Sep 15 2008, 01:16:20 PM	Amie
That's an interesting idea. I never thought of freezing live BBS. I wonder if that would make a difference in trying to train them. The only problem I see is that they wouldn't stay in the water column. I don't notice the dwarfs running to the food when I feed like Suzy says her big ones do when she feeds. They just stay right where they are and wait for the food to come to them.	stormy, stormy nights Posts: 2,362 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: June 29, 2008
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Post #7 Sep 17 2008, 04:45:45 PM	Suzy
We could just buy them frozen. I think it is possible to train them, but I think we would need to be very diligent. I have found with full sized shs it is easy to train if you pick the right time. Once they are past that prime point, it is hard. So, maybe we could teach th fry? I am not sure I will ever know. My herd are just barely surviving. So far, I have zero luck with fry, and my adults are really lethargic. I think I need a better enrichment for my BBS?	Seahorse Whisperer Posts: 3,047 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: June 28, 2008
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Post #8 Sep 17 2008, 04:50:18 PM	Shane
in order to train them all it would take is a little frozen bbs and some live, when you feed the live put the thawed bs in there as well, i am sure some would take it as mistake, and then eventually you can go straight frozen after some time, maybe even less then a week.	breeding stock Posts: 311 Group: Members Member #22 Joined: August 5, 2008
Post #9 Sep 17 2008, 05:16:38 PM	Suzy
You would think that but seahorses are very discriminate eaters. The last ones I got would not only not eat BS, they would only eat a certain brand of mysis! I swear, they will starve before they eat something that is not familiar to them. But, your trick works well for juvenile seahorses. I got a juvenile from a friend who has my same species. The stupid thing will still not eat frozen. She missed the magic window of frozen training.... I wonder if we could get the fry babies eating pods then sneak in some cyclopeeze? That would be really nutritious, I think.	Seahorse Whisperer Posts: 3,047 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: June 28, 2008
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Post #10 Sep 18 2008, 11:19:00 PM	Amie
That's really weird about the brands of mysis...I can't believe a fish could be that picky. Is it possible to train the dwarfs to eat frozen? That reminds me...BrineShrimpDirect has finally agreed to start selling Cyclop-eeze. They are going to be selling it at an amazing prize compared to those small $8 blocks we usually get. The only problem is that they come in a 1 kilogram package (2.2 lbs.) Most people don't go through that much of it, but I hope everyone here considers buying it and maybe splitting it with someone if you need to. I've been working on BSD for a couple months now to start selling it. So now that they have agreed, I hope that it sells well for them. I think that the 2.2 lbs. of Cyclop-eeze is going to cost around $30, but I haven't gotten a final prize yet. I don't know how much those little blocks weigh, but this will be a steal compared to those. If anyone is interested, I'll let you know when he starts selling it. It's supposed to be some time next week. Edit: Just did some internet searching and found that the bars that we buy at the LFS are 2 oz. One kilogram equals about 35 ounces. So that would be like buying 17.5 of those bars. And at $8 a piece, that would cost $140.	stormy, stormy nights Posts: 2,362 Group: Admin Member #4 Joined: June 29, 2008
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