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| Topic Started: May 9 2009, 10:35:11 PM (217 Views) | |
| Post #1 May 9 2009, 10:35:11 PM | Sylvio |
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Hallo Die letzte Zeit war ich nicht sehr aktiv in der Zucht Aber es gibt wieder mal was neues. Ein Freund war letzte Woche bei Inve zu Besuch und hat viele neue Sachen und Erkenntnisse mitgebracht. Eine davon ist das die meisten Brachionuskulturen sehr stark mit Ciliaten befallen sind. Dies würde bei der Zucht sich sehr zum Nachteil auswirken. Die Ciliaten kommen von der Algenfütterung wenn die Kulturen nicht mehr rein sind. INVE hat ein neues Produkt entwickelt mit Namen "Sparkle" Ich habe ein wenig von dem Futter abbekommen um es zu testen. Was mich reizt sind die Zahl der Brachionus 1000 Stück pro ml das ist enorm und das in einer Woche.
Ich werde das mal testen ob es Vorteile zu der Algenfütterung hat. MfG Sylvio |
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| Post #2 May 12 2009, 11:13:56 AM | Suzy |
| I need Tina! This has got to be good! |
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| Post #3 May 12 2009, 11:16:17 AM | Suzy |
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Here is what I got from Babel fish: The last time was not very active I in the breed But there is again times which new. A friend was last week with Inve to visit and many new things and realizations bring along. One of it is that most Brachionuskulturen is very strongly with Ciliaten stricken. This would affect itself with the breed much to the disadvantage. The Ciliaten does not come from the alga feeding if the cultures any longer is pure. INVE " a new product developed with names; Sparkle" I have a little from the fodder abbekommen around it to test. Which me provokes is the number of the Brachionus 1000 pieces per ml that is enormous and in one week. Now I know why they call it Babel Fish! |
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| Post #4 May 13 2009, 11:37:02 AM | Lady Baboon |
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He is still alive ;) Sorry took a little longer, but I had to get back with Sylvio to make sure I had it right. Sylvio's post: Hello I have not been too active in the breeding business lately. But there is something new. A friend visited INVE last week and came back with a lot of new things and information. One of them is the fact that most rotifer cultures are heavily invested with ciliates. That is very negative for breeding. The ciliates are from the algae cultures if these are not clean any more. INVE has a new product developed by the of "Sparkle". He received some of that food to test it. What intrigues me is the amount of 1000 rotifers per ml which is a lot within a week. Quote: Brachionus culture *You start on monday. The total amount for the whole day is 250x0.65g = 162g for 1000 liter, meaning 1.62g for 10 liters. You start with ca. 250 rotifers in 10l. Mix ± 1.62 gram Sparkle in 500ml water and add 300ml to the rotifer culture. That is your culture starter. Keep the remaining 200ml in the fridge and feed 50ml 4 times during the day. Tuesday morning: You have ± 500 Brachionus / ml. The total amount for the whole day is 500 x 0,50 g = 250 g for 1000 liter, meaning 2.5g for 10l. Mix ± 2,5 g S.parkle in 500 ml water and feed at least 4 times 125ml during the rest of the day. Keep the remaining mix in the fridge. Wednesday morning: You have ± 750 Brachionus / ml. The total amount to add for the day is 750 x 0,45 gram = 337 gram for 1000 liter, meaning 3,37 g for 10 Liter. Mix ± 3,37 g S.parkle in 500 ml water and feed at least 4 times 125ml during the day. Keep remaining mix in the fridge. Thursday morning: You have ± 1000 Brachionus / ml. The total amount to add for the day is 1000 x 0,40 gram = 400 Gramm für 1000 Liter, also 4 gram for 10 liter. Mix 4 gram S.parkle in 500 ml and feed at least 4 times 125ml for the rest of the day. [end of quote] I am going to test this to find out if there are advantages to using algae. Regards Sylvio Edited by Lady Baboon, May 13 2009, 11:39:06 AM.
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| Post #5 May 14 2009, 07:53:39 AM | Suzy |
| Sweet, Sylvio! Keep us updated? |
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| Post #6 May 15 2009, 09:12:48 PM | Sylvio |
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Hi Also was positives hab ich noch nicht zu berichten. Da ich auch immer nicht viel Zeit habe komme ich nur einmal am Tag zum füttern das kann schon ein Fehler sein. Aber ich teste weiter. MfG Sylvio |
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| Post #7 May 16 2009, 01:14:13 AM | Amie |
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It sounds like a lot of work. Feeding 5 times a day? I don't spend that much time taking care of my fish larvae. What problems do ciliates cause to larvae? |
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| Post #8 May 16 2009, 05:39:36 AM | Lady Baboon |
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Sylvio's answer: Hi Nothing new yet. Do to the lack of time I can only feed once a day. That might be a mistake. But I keep testing. Regards Sylvio |
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| Post #9 May 16 2009, 01:42:58 PM | Sylvio |
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Hi Amie Ciliaten werden den Larven nicht schaden . Vermute ich mal. Sie zwingen nur Zooplankton und Phyto auf Dauer in die Knie. Ciliaten ist immer ein Zeichen schlechterer Wasserqualität. Es ist nicht ganz einfach die Ciliaten zu Beurteilen. Vieleicht findet mal jemand eine Art die für kleinste Fischlarven geeignet sind. Aber die Hauptgruppe macht mehr Schaden. Ich hab mir heut ein Mixgerät geholt um die Teilchengröße von Sparkle zu optimieren. Es muss ja einen Grund haben wenn sie empfehlen 3-5 min zu mixen. MfG Sylvio |
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| Post #10 May 16 2009, 02:09:24 PM | Lady Baboon |
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And more from Sylvio: Hi Amie, Ciliates don't hurt the larvae. I think. They just eliminate zoo plankton and phyto in the long run. Ciliates are always a sign of poor water quality. It is not really easy to judge ciliates. Maybe somebody will find eventually a kind that is suitable for the smallest fish larvae. But the main group does more harm. I bought a mixer today to optimize the particle size of sparkle. There has to be a reason that they say to mix for 3-5 min. Regards Sylvio |
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