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| Skunk Cleaner shrimp...help. | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 27 2010, 07:03:36 PM (502 Views) | |
| Post #1 Feb 27 2010, 07:03:36 PM | fisher32 |
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I purchased this shrimp yesterday. Aclimation went well and he looked good. Today I saw his antenna poking out thru the rocks not moving? So I picked up the rock and he was laying motionless except I could see his internal organs moving. I watched him most of the day figuiring that he's molting? Is this normal while molting? Still no movement yet...how long does a molt take. I tried to research it today but most of the info was vague except they dissappear for a day or two. That I understand since it takes a while for the new shell to harden. I just touched him and I had a little movement but he's still laying on his side. This is the first one I've purchased since starting the hobby. Amie...the shrimp godess...is this normal...I hate to loose him. |
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| Post #2 Feb 27 2010, 08:15:39 PM | Amie |
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No, it's not normal. I hate to say it, but you are going to loose it. Most likely, it needs to molt, but it's shell is too hard and it can't get out of it so it's being crushed by it's own outer shell. You could put a drop of iodine in your tank to soften up the shell, but it's probably too late. I've wanted to cut the outer shell for them when this starts to happen, but I haven't had the nerve to do it. They split along the back 'shoulder blades' and pull out backwards, but if they can't, they just die. You should start to see them turning white from the inside out, it's not pretty. Where did you get it? |
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| Post #3 Feb 27 2010, 08:27:12 PM | fisher32 |
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I hate killing things...I just looked in the cave with a flashlight ...he is turning whiteish inside. But he's still alive. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I got him from fish4u. Edited by fisher32, Feb 27 2010, 08:29:43 PM.
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| Post #4 Feb 27 2010, 09:10:21 PM | Clint |
| Emergency surgery what do you have to lose? Sorry that is too bad. |
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| Post #5 Feb 27 2010, 09:57:09 PM | fisher32 |
| I have several questions. How far do I cut,can I use a razor blade? Amie, do I cut the top of the cephalothorax or pleon? Do you think I should just try to do a slight surface cut, just enough to help him. I need Dr.House... lol |
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| Post #6 Feb 27 2010, 10:00:50 PM | Amie |
I don't know if surgery would even work at this point, once he has started turning white. That white would be dead tissue. Think of the cocktail shrimp that you buy in the store - that's what's happening to your shrimp. You didn't have anything to do with that shrimp dying, I promise. They grow and grow and eventually need to shed that outer shell because it doesn't expand with them. The back of them splits open, they grab onto a rock or something, and then they pull their bodies out from the back. If there is iodine in the water, the outer shell stays soft and molting is fairly easy for them and they will molt about once a month. If there is not enough iodine in the water, the outer shell becomes hard. If it gets too hard, it's impossible for them to break out of the back of the shell. So instead of molting, they continue to grow and grow for weeks past the molting time, until they get smashed inside the outer shell and it either cracks open and they survive or they turn white and die. I'm not sure what determines whether they can eventually get the shell to crack instead of killing them, maybe it's the complete lack of iodine in the water so the shell would be extremely brittle...but that's just a thought. The shrimp you have was already in a trauma state before you got it. It's possible that moving it to a new tank just sped up the molting process which, in this case, was an impossible task. I'm sorry, I really hate it when I loose a new shrimp. I tend to loose them because I put too many together, and that really irritates me that I keep trying to do that. I asked where you got it because usually the ones in the LFSs are still pretty small and wouldn't have this issue yet. You must have bought a larger one though. I wonder how long fish4U had it at their store. |
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| Post #7 Feb 27 2010, 11:39:10 PM | Sylvio |
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HI Kann es sein das sie an der typischen Cleaner shrimp Krankheit leidet? Man erkennt die Krankheit an schwarzen Gebilde im inneren der Organe. MfG Sylvio |
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| Post #8 Feb 28 2010, 12:26:45 PM | fisher32 |
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HI it can on its it suffers from the typical cleaner shrimp disease? We recognize the disease by black body in the inner of the institutions. MfG Sylvio Hallo Sylvio! Ich noch nicht Jod in meine Tank für einige Zeit dosiert. Er noch am Leben ist und ein wenig seit gestern Abend verschoben wurde. Ich werde heute Dosis und sehen, was heute passiert. Die Shell hat bisher nicht geteilt oder der inneren Organe geändert in der color.Thanks für die Response. Bob |
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| Post #9 Feb 28 2010, 05:25:36 PM | fisher32 |
| Update...He's hanging in there! Since I haven't added any in a year to my tank, I added a dose and a half of iodide. I moved him from laying down on his side position in the cave and he grabbed the side of the rock. So he tried to move away when I touched him. Movement is good I think. He dosen't look like he's outgrowing his shell. Could it be that shrimp really need iodine to survive even if he is not molting? He's still hanging on the side of the rock...just maybe he's a survivor.. |
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| Post #10 Mar 1 2010, 12:36:20 AM | Amie |
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Sylvio said: Could it be that it suffers from the typical cleaner shrimp disease? You can recognize the disease if there are black spots on the inner organs. MfG Sylvio What translator are you using Bob? I'm not very familiar with cleaner shrimp disease...never seen it. But apparently it's fatal. I have had a couple of shrimp that had small black spots on the outside of their shells and they were just fine. Bob, I really do think that shrimp need a certain amount of iodine to survive, but there is no research to prove that. It's kind of a controversial subject at this point. If you get too much iodine in the tank it will kill them. I use Lugols, but very carefully. |
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