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| Post #31 Apr 23 2010, 09:16:27 PM | Suzy |
| Geez, when was the last time you guys went to the pier? Spiders as big as beagles.... |
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| Post #32 Apr 23 2010, 09:32:11 PM | Larry H |
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It says the book was copyrighted in 1998 and reprinted in 1999. It may be old information but we know the GSL is much saltier than the oceans. I agree with you though it may not be as salty as it once was and I bet those brine shrimp and flies have been around for thousands of years and when it was much saltier. I once read and I will see if I can find the book that there is a freshwater fish living in the brackish waters of the Great Salt Lake. My memory is bad but seems like it was a small killifish. I remember seeing pictures when I was younger and I wanted some. It was in one of those can't get to places. I think we talked about this once before about fish being introduced in to our rivers, lakes and streams. I think these fish were introduced because they control mosquitoes in the brackish Atlantic marshes. I will look for my book on that and find out what I can. Suzy, I know what spiders you are talking about and it has been years since I was there. Edited by Larry H, Apr 23 2010, 09:35:24 PM.
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| Post #33 Apr 23 2010, 11:37:27 PM | Amie |
ICK! But those are actually on the pier, not on the water or in the water. When I think of freshwater and bugs, I think of those weird bugs that skirt across the top of the water, black flies, gnats, mosquitos, dragonflies, damselflies, etc. It seems like there are always tons of flying insects around water. But I'm wondering if the book was talking about bugs in the water, like amphipods, rotifers, copepods, etc. Because there are freshwater pods that have equivalent or similar salt water pods. Larry, I don't think 10-11 years is that old. I wanted to make sure it wasn't 30+ years old. I didn't mean to say that the GSL's salinity isn't really high, I know it is. But it is not necessary to raise brine shrimp cyst from GSL in salinity any where near those levels. Your original question was:
I think we should always want our tanks more comparable to the ocean and I don't think there is any difference in how you raise California vs. GSL brine shrimp. We'd be crazy to ever try and get our water parameters comparable to the GSL. What I was trying to say before is that I don't think the salinity has anything to do with why they don't survive in our tanks. |
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| Post #34 Apr 24 2010, 10:47:25 AM | Larry H |
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I am thinking and why I even brought it up is that these brine shrimp, pods and other organisms are very adaptable and that the salinity of the water does not really matter. I think that over a matter of time they would eventually adapt to any type of water they were in. The book I got that information was a book on insects, not anything to do with saltwater. The author of that book I believe also was referring to insects in the water or living on the water not those that live on the land or around the water. Of the few he mentioned that live on or in salt water, he also referred to the water striders that skate on the ocean's surface hundreds of miles from the shore. He also talked about oceanic midges (family Chironomidae) that live at depths down to 90 feet and may live in the canals in sponges. I also believe he was just talking about insects. Not all bugs are insects. Centipedes, millipedes, arachnids, spiders, daddy long legs, scorpions, mites, chiggers, ticks and crustaceans are not insects but may be referred to as bugs. |
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| Post #35 Apr 24 2010, 10:12:00 PM | Amie |
I agree. I was blown away when I found out that there are freshwater rotifers and copepods and they look just like the saltwater varieties.
Your the first person I've known that would ever read a book on insects.
I can see how some of those are not considered insects, ie. crustaceans, spiders, arachnids, and scorpions, but I never knew that things like daddy long legs, mites, ciggers and ticks weren't insects. But I'm not sure I want an explanation because as it stands now, I'm already starting to itch. |
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| Post #36 Apr 25 2010, 12:03:48 AM | Larry H |
I have to laugh at that because I have three or four books on insects, a couple on caterpillars and butterflies, probably 15 to twenty on ducks and other birds, four or five on trout, salmon and other fish that we actually fish for as well as a bunch of other books on a wide variety of subjects in my small library of books. My wife is always wanting me to do something with them like get rid of them but I like to look things up that I once read and use them to recall things that I read many years ago. |
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| Post #37 Apr 26 2010, 11:14:34 PM | Amie |
| A book on caterpillars...huh..I bet the person that wrote those books was glad you came along. |
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| Post #38 Apr 26 2010, 11:51:05 PM | Larry H |
| I am glad to have found it. I think butterflies are kind of cool. To each their own. |
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| Post #39 Apr 30 2010, 06:08:24 AM | Suzy |
| Ok, Amie! I cannot tell if these are growing or not! I am feeding the nanno paste, and the water clears really slowly. Are you experimenting with them? I am going to start splitting them and trying other food. |
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| Post #40 May 2 2010, 04:22:50 PM | Amie |
| Yeah, I'm having the same issues. The water is clearing, I don't see the that the nanno is settling out any, but it's hard to tell if they are multiplying or not. I think splitting is a good idea. I was thinking of doing the same. |
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